Why is rule 7 a thing

[SuceT]

Do you know what you are even talking about?

The restriction is on PREpubescent... meaning before puberty. A person who appears to be in puberty may be allowed --- and that doesn't mean they are adults.

prepubescent =/= teen
a person in puberty =/= adult

Cartoons get a little more leeway than 3D and other more realistic depictions. Here is the rule, in case you haven't bothered to read it first:
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If you think a game is breaking Rule 7 - then you should use the REPORT button in the game thread's first post and ask for the game to be reviewed.

Right now, you're just tilting at windmills (and I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt with that assessment).

Ok but why a game with similar character design like Magical Girl Konoha got banned?

 

[Icarus Media]

 

[tanstaafl]

It gets fairly old having to explain the same thing over and over. It's all about plausible deniability. Look at any given picture, even the one directly above this post. The dev, or anyone basically, can say "Well look at the art style, it's kind of hard to narrow down to a specific range, it could be 12 it could be 18." That will probably get a pass. But, when you look at a picture and your brain says, definitively, that one is 12...it's gone.

This is not hard to grasp.

 

[morphnet]

Ok but why a game with similar character design like Magical Girl Konoha got banned?

One, They are in no way similar in "character design". One is drawn in pixels and the other is drawn in detail.
Two, The "shota" shows NO definitive signs of being prepubescent, MANY of the characters in the other game ARE clearly prepubescent, and show definitive signs of being prepubescent.

Now a few questions for you,

Why does it matter if it IS banned?
Are you not able to get it other places?
Do you care so little for the community and site that you are willing to have them risk being shut down and maybe even face legal charges just so you can get a game here that you could easily get somewhere else?

 

[SuceT]

One, They are in no way similar in "character design". One is drawn in pixels and the other is drawn in detail.
Two, The "shota" shows NO definitive signs of being prepubescent, MANY of the characters in the other game ARE clearly prepubescent, and show definitive signs of being prepubescent.

Now a few questions for you,

Why does it matter if it IS banned?
Are you not able to get it other places?
Do you care so little for the community and site that you are willing to have them risk being shut down and maybe even face legal charges just so you can get a game here that you could easily get somewhere else?

Lol, okay bro let's go into bad faith territory. And for the Black Souls 2 characters (some in DLC3 who have sex scenes are canonically less than 10 years old based on real life children) are fine?

 

[c3p0]

And for the Black Souls 2 characters (some in DLC3 who have sex scenes are canonically less than 10 years old based on real life children) are fine?

1. It is up to the staff
2. Their place their rules
3. If you think some content violate their rules, then, by all means, report them
   1. They will decide if that content violate their rules or not
4. Everyone is free to leave the site, if they want

And for your question: I couldn't care less. If it is in the zone, then either none one has reported it yet (eg. new questionable content added in the last update) or it is green lighted by the staff (can also be that this decision will change after an update drop).
As written before, you can report questionable content, so they are aware of it.

 

[morphnet]

Lol, okay bro let's go into bad faith territory.

The only one replying / posting in bad faith here is you. Points made against your last example can't be ignored so you move on to a new game, you refuse to answer the questions posed to you all the while expecting answers yourself.

And for the Black Souls 2 characters (some in DLC3 who have sex scenes are canonically less than 10 years old based on real life children) are fine?

As you SHOULD KNOW if you bothered reading the rules of this site, if you find ANY content that is questionable you SHOULD report it.
As you SHOULD KNOW if you bothered using the search function, it has been pointed out MANY times, in MANY threads that the staff are NOT able to check all content and rely on members to help by reporting content that breaks the rules.

The thing is most of the people complaining WON'T report content like that because they are here for THAT content and are pissed when some of it gets banned. Now as pointed out in MANY threads already, just because it is banned here doesn't mean people can't get it elsewhere and so there is no need for it to be here...
ESPECIALLY if it helps keep the staff, site and community safe by banning it.

Now how about you stop replying / posting in bad faith and actually answer the questions posed to you?

Why does it matter if it IS banned?
Are you not able to get it other places?
Do you care so little for the community and site that you are willing to have them risk being shut down and maybe even face legal charges just so you can get a game here that you could easily get somewhere else?

 

[anne O'nymous]

It gets fairly old having to explain the same thing over and over.

Why read, when you can act like a spoiled brat whining because he can't fap on peace over his lolis?

 

[Zastinx]

It gets fairly old having to explain the same thing over and over. It's all about plausible deniability. Look at any given picture, even the one directly above this post. The dev, or anyone basically, can say "Well look at the art style, it's kind of hard to narrow down to a specific range, it could be 12 it could be 18." That will probably get a pass. But, when you look at a picture and your brain says, definitively, that one is 12...it's gone.

This is not hard to grasp.

Then why are there so many Western games on here like that but worse, since they look realistic and stay up? There is a clear double standard here on this site.

 

[RoseWulfLea]

Then why are there so many Western games on here like that but worse, since they look realistic and stay up? There is a clear double standard here on this site.

Your all shouting to deaf ears. I've already made the point of either banning it or don't, not any of this half assed shit. But people like to preserve the status quo. It's not like sits like LAH or ATF don't exist, Kimichi and hentai-sharing as well. TO the guys talking about "Safety of the forum" if it was SUCH a concern, why give ANY leeway in the first place.

THAT is what is upsetting alot of people, that there is biase when all you have to do is make a call: is loli/shota okay on here or not. It's not like the forum would implode if you decided there will be NO more loli/shota at all. ULFM does fine with that rule last I checked.

 

[morphnet]

Then why are there so many Western games on here like that but worse, since they look realistic and stay up?

By so many, you actually mean a handful? Going off your criteria, Western / realistic, the total of 780 games tagged with loli drops to 204 when adding 3dcg and removing rpgm engine. If you look through those results more can be removed because they are using KK or other "anime" style characters.

Now if you think any of those left break the sites rules, you should report them.

TO the guys talking about "Safety of the forum" if it was SUCH a concern, why give ANY leeway in the first place.

Because that is what they decided to do, it's their site.

THAT is what is upsetting alot of people, that there is biase when all you have to do is make a call: is loli/shota okay on here or not.

They did make a call, those that are NOT prepubescent are allowed, those that ARE prepubescent are not.

This is a private ADULT forum, ADULTS getting upset because they can't PIRATE a loli game here need to grow up and act like an ADULT and go find the game they are looking for somewhere else on the INTERNET!

People need to get over the idea this site OWES them something. Telling a private pirate site they HAVE TO change their rules because SOME "ADULTS" are throwing a tantrum because they can't pirate banned games is ridiculous. We're on the internet they can easily go find them somewhere else.

It's not like the forum would implode if you decided there will be NO more loli/shota at all. ULFM does fine with that rule last I checked.

and this site is doing just fine with the rules they have or are you implying otherwise? THIS site will not IMPLODE if it keeps it's rules just the way they are either....

Also why exactly do those banned games NEED to be here? Why exactly can people NOT get some games here and other games from other places on the internet?

 

[Zastinx]

By so many, you actually mean a handful? Going off your criteria, Western / realistic, the total of 780 games tagged with loli drops to 204 when adding 3dcg and removing rpgm engine. If you look through those results more can be removed because they are using KK or other "anime" style characters
Now if you think any of those left break the sites rules, you should report them.

You're arguing to try and downplay the clear bias and you say that as if I hadn't tried...

 

[RoseWulfLea]

By so many, you actually mean a handful? Going off your criteria, Western / realistic, the total of 780 games tagged with loli drops to 204 when adding 3dcg and removing rpgm engine. If you look through those results more can be removed because they are using KK or other "anime" style characters.

Now if you think any of those left break the sites rules, you should report them.



Because that is what they decided to do, it's their site.



They did make a call, those that are NOT prepubescent are allowed, those that ARE prepubescent are not.

This is a private ADULT forum, ADULTS getting upset because they can't PIRATE a loli game here need to grow up and act like an ADULT and go find the game they are looking for somewhere else on the INTERNET!

People need to get over the idea this site OWES them something. Telling a private pirate site they HAVE TO change their rules because SOME "ADULTS" are throwing a tantrum because they can't pirate banned games is ridiculous. We're on the internet they can easily go find them somewhere else.



and this site is doing just fine with the rules they have or are you implying otherwise? THIS site will not IMPLODE if it keeps it's rules just the way they are either....

Also why exactly do those banned games NEED to be here? Why exactly can people NOT get some games here and other games from other places on the internet?

I like you keep acting like I am saying "You HAVE to add loli/shot" when I am really saying "stop being a fucking fence-sitter" I'd be happy with both ends of the spectrum. Having dealt with the mods bs when posting here I can say there IS inherent biase. You just have to look at Ecchi&Craft, I had tried to get it on the forum, and was told "it violates rule 7" and when I went through proper channels to have them reconsider they told me it was not going to ever be approved.

Come a few months later and it's been approved by the mods?!? So what determines what is okay to post here? What fucking MOOD the mods are in that day?

 

[morphnet]

You're arguing to try and downplay the clear bias and you say that as if I hadn't tried...

Bias? really? how so?

I like you keep acting like I am saying "You HAVE to add loli/shot"

Telling a private pirate site they HAVE TO change their rules because SOME "ADULTS" are throwing a tantrum because they can't pirate banned games is ridiculous.

Where EXACTLY did I directly say, imply, insinuate or in any other way, shape or form claim you were FOR or WANTED TO "add loli/shota" ? I clearly said you want them to CHANGE the rules.

when I am really saying "stop being a fucking fence-sitter"

It's NOT being a fence sitter, it's called trying to walk a fine line, it's called trying to be fair while being safe.

Also quick question, why should the people who can get some of the games here loose out just because SOME of the games you guys like get banned?

Having dealt with the mods bs when posting here I can say there IS inherent biase. You just have to look at Ecchi&Craft, I had tried to get it on the forum, and was told "it violates rule 7" and when I went through proper channels to have them reconsider they told me it was not going to ever be approved.

You people REALLY need to look up what the word bias means

Come a few months later and it's been approved by the mods?!? So what determines what is okay to post here? What fucking MOOD the mods are in that day?

Well I'm assuming that when a game comes up (reported / requested / brought to their attention), they review it and then discuss it and come to an agreement. I also assume that there are other factors that apply and that influence their discission.

I notice that you like ALL the others refused / failed to answer the question I posed? I wonder why it is that none of you seem to be able to give a comprehensive answer?

Why does it matter if it IS banned?
Are you not able to get it other places?
Do you care so little for the community and site that you are willing to have them risk being shut down and maybe even face legal charges just so you can get a game here that you could easily get somewhere else?

Also why exactly do those banned games NEED to be here? Why exactly can people NOT get some games here and other games from other places on the internet?

 

[Zastinx]

Bias? really? how so?

Are you intentionally being retarded? I already stated it in my first post.

 

[morphnet]

Are you intentionally being retarded? I already stated it in my first post.

You mean this post?

Then why are there so many Western games on here like that but worse, since they look realistic and stay up? There is a clear double standard here on this site.

Ok let's look at that post?

"Then why are there so many Western games on here like that but worse, since they look realistic and stay up?"

Well there aren't, there is a total of 20906 games on the site, 780 are tagged loli, with 3dcg and removing rpgm there are 204.

I mentioned all this in my earlier post btw, now going off your criteria, western / realistic that 204 drops even further because of the non-realistic styles used.


Now what you have done is exaggerate the number to TRY give your point some validity but all it does is show you are being dishonest and call into question the rest of your "information" / "complaint" (if you can't use actual facts and figures what else are you exaggerating about?). Of those, the preview pics show signs of puberty in the 3d ones so exactly what games are you referring to?

Now let's look at your response to my reply to your so called bias post?

You're arguing to try and downplay the clear bias and you say that as if I hadn't tried...

You try shift focus from the fact you use exaggerations and that imply you have reported a few / some / many of them.

Nothing in either of your posts shows / proves bias on the side of the staff and mods, all it does it show them sticking to their own rules. If the characters DO NOT look prepubescent the game stays. All you've done is give your opinion, NOT based on the sites rules and if it's NOT based on the sites rules it can't be applied and then a conclusion of bias formed.

Now if there WERE "many Western games, look realistic" with characters who were CLEARLY prepubescent THAT would be based on the sites rules and you would have a case. There aren't though and you are arguing an opinion.

Now until your "opinion" becomes the global standard used by hackers, law enforcement agencies, courts and governments around the world it hold the same amount of water as mine.

Now how about you try where there others refused / failed and answer my questions?


Why does it matter if it IS banned?
Are people not able to get it other places?

Also why exactly do those banned games NEED to be here?
Why exactly can people NOT get some games here and other games from other places on the internet?

 

[Zastinx]

You mean this post?



Ok let's look at that post?

"Then why are there so many Western games on here like that but worse, since they look realistic and stay up?"

Well there aren't, there is a total of 20906 games on the site, 780 are tagged loli, with 3dcg and removing rpgm there are 204.
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I mentioned all this in my earlier post btw, now going off your criteria, western / realistic that 204 drops even further because of the non-realistic styles used.
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Now what you have done is exaggerate the number to TRY give your point some validity but all it does is show you are being dishonest and call into question the rest of your "information" / "complaint" (if you can't use actual facts and figures what else are you exaggerating about?). Of those, the preview pics show signs of puberty in the 3d ones so exactly what games are you referring to?

Now let's look at your response to my reply to your so called bias post?



You try shift focus from the fact you use exaggerations and that imply you have reported a few / some / many of them.

Nothing in either of your posts shows / proves bias on the side of the staff and mods, all it does it show them sticking to their own rules. If the characters DO NOT look prepubescent the game stays. All you've done is give your opinion, NOT based on the sites rules and if it's NOT based on the sites rules it can't be applied and then a conclusion of bias formed.

Now if there WERE "many Western games, look realistic" with characters who were CLEARLY prepubescent THAT would be based on the sites rules and you would have a case. There aren't though and you are arguing an opinion.

Now until your "opinion" becomes the global standard used by hackers, law enforcement agencies, courts and governments around the world it hold the same amount of water as mine.

Now how about you try where there others refused / failed and answer my questions?


Why does it matter if it IS banned?
Are people not able to get it other places?

Also why exactly do those banned games NEED to be here?
Why exactly can people NOT get some games here and other games from other places on the internet?

You're the one shifting shit and getting it twisted
YOU replied to ME when I replied this to that other guy saying

"It gets fairly old having to explain the same thing over and over. It's all about plausible deniability. Look at any given picture, even the one directly above this post. The dev, or anyone basically, can say "Well look at the art style, it's kind of hard to narrow down to a specific range, it could be 12 it could be 18." That will probably get a pass. But, when you look at a picture and your brain says, definitively, that one is 12...it's gone."

I say:
"Then why are there so many Western games on here like that but worse, since they look realistic and stay up?"
What I'm getting at here is there is a double standard. Both should be dealt with equally. I don't care if they aren't there for XYZ. It's just about not doing one or the other.

Then you reply to for whatever reason pointless statistics bringing up KK models as an example. I'm also getting a feeling you're linking appearance to age. You don't know what loli is, do you?

I get there are some things that cannot be here they are obvious for example most Black Panda games the characters are and are insinuated as underage. The same needs to happen for those Western ones, they're even worse offenders because they look realistic ffs.

Also about your questions, Since you're so anxious to know here:
Why does it matter if it IS banned? It only does in the context that other ones that should count as violations are getting let through
Are people not able to get it other places? They can sometimes, but typically these games end up there as a result of being posted here first. Additionally, other places are flooded with viruses, pop-ups and multi-linking just to navigate those sites let alone potentially download something So here is where they want it.
Also why exactly do those banned games NEED to be here? They don't and I never said they do.
Why exactly can people NOT get some games here and other games from other places on the internet? Same reason as answer 2

 

[Qahlz]

I'm also getting a feeling you're linking appearance to age. You don't know what loli is, do you?

rule 1.7 is partly based on a characters appearance. I guess stating outright that a character is 13 or younger will disqualify a game immediately, but as long as the age is kept ambiguous, the staff can only go by a character's appearance.

Also, "loli", in the context of this site's tag definition, means "Girls with undeveloped bodies in sexual situations". Not sure what you're fishing for here.

 

[tanstaafl]

Also, "loli", in the context of this site's tag definition, means "Girls with undeveloped bodies in sexual situations". Not sure what you're fishing for here.

He's having a full on shit fit, with tears, about not getting what he wants (children to spank it to).

 

[c3p0]

This is a private ADULT forum, ADULTS getting upset because they can't PIRATE a loli game here need to grow up and act like an ADULT and go find the game they are looking for somewhere else on the INTERNET!

...whatever reason pointless statistics bringing...

So, you're saying the staff is biased, your opinion. Your saying that morphnet statistic are pointless facts, so what shall we use for a fact based discussion? Your opinion? My opinion? Morphnet opinion? Any other opinion?
Therefore, I declare, based on this opinion, cause all other are pointless statistics:


And last but not least, do anyone really believe that if all characters need to be adult (18, but even that is not consistent worldwide) this would be different? The staff then would need to decide (and vote on) if the characters are adults or not and that is, as the current rule is, still subjectiv to those who are currently staff of this site.