VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.996 Public] [WeirdWorld]

[Ddlc]

And there is -to our knowledge- no more Water People or Sky People or their versions of superhumans around, but we know at least some of Water People and their supers became Silats, like Syla for example.

Do we have confirmation in game to Syla being a sea-human ? I know it's a popular theory but i wasn't sure if it was already proven.

 

[DrakoGhoul]

Or, and humor me to think on it, she wants to monsterify humanity and herself into new species of monsterkind in somewhat controlled manner, and become the precursor/first among her kin, which with her as a chosen of Body would put her on top-dog spot. Like with Syla and Silats. Or like Indra and Devas. Or like Aos and Daoine Sidhe. Or Eisheth and her whatever she has, I think besides M66 it was not stated what name her kind has. Or like - probably - another instances of this happening in the past.

I'm not really sure this is the case, either with what Ella wants neither it usually happening like that, but many things point to it. Like there is multiple similar situations with chosen and their kin being most glaring - if there's a pattern, then it's probably for a reason. Aglaecwif stating monsters do not come to the human world to conquer it, as this is not their objective, indicates there is another. And there is -to our knowledge- no more Water People or Sky People or their versions of superhumans around, but we know at least some of Water People and their supers became Silats, like Syla for example. Indra also reminisces about time before becoming what he is, what his people were before now.

And we still do not know for what the Dark Moon entire deal is, but I'd have a guess it's to manifest Apostles for long enough to condust a ritual of some sorts, like permanently connecting the world to higher plane, creating new Qliphoth to terraform the world or/and force-infect entire population and put them on specific path of evolution. And since Ella wants more power and influence, getting entire race of beings on your command together with removing any locals who would challenge her - my money's on that.

Eisheth daughters are called Estries. So it's like M66 - Estries. Just like M43 - Silat.

Do we have confirmation in game to Syla being a sea-human ? I know it's a popular theory but i wasn't sure if it was already proven.

Yes. The fact that MC had citizenship, according to the seahumans machine and could use their technology was the indicator. So it's not just a popular theory anymore.

 

[Ddlc]

Yes. The fact that MC had citizenship, according to the seahumans machine and could use their technology was the indicator. So it's not just a popular theory anymore.

Yes, that's the moment i thought it could be used as proof. Though i still consider it could be something from Mc's dad, maybe hundreds of generations down the line a sea-human was part of his family.
I remember Mc being told he was the only one who carried the legacy of other humans (by the vestige of humanity), but when he asked if there were no others he didn't receive an answer.

 

[devilsdetails]

Oh I remember two examples just off the top of my head.

The first one is that on Himavat's page, the wiki claimed that Dexter said that multiple nukes can kill a Himavat, while he never said that. What he said is that even a regular mountain would take hundreds of nukes to destroy, and a Himavant is far more durable than a regular mountain. So in reality, hundreds of nukes would do basically next to nothing to a Hivamat, not to mention killing it. The person who wrote it probably didn't pay much attention to the dialogue or the monster classification lesson in HERO.
The second one is from Goliath's page, where the wiki stated that Goliath's punch hit with the force of a nuke or sth, while what the game actually says is that the shockwave from Goliath's punch can be compared to a nuclear explosion, not the force of the hit itself. In fact, the hit itself should be magnitudes stronger than nuclear explosions since it completely obliterated a Hivamat, something impossible for nuclear weapons to do.

And these are just the ones I remember from my 10 or so minutes on the wiki, I would probably find much more if I continued browsing. Also I'm just talking about misinformation, and the "theory/speculation treated as lore" problem is even more staggering. It's so incessant that I would probably exceed the word limit talking about it and I honestly don't care enough to do it lol.

I mean, the Himavat Page literally says what you want it to say, which is that nukes aren't likely to do anything to the monster:

And has always said that

As for the Goliath page, seems like a semantics issue with the sentence but thats an easy fix.

And if your complaints are about how a writer has interpreted the lore, that is certainly open to discussion. Its a pretty large wiki for relatively few writers to QA and help from the community at large can be useful so we would appreciate it if people would take the time.
This isn't meant to be glib, QA is hard and more hands genuinely make the task easier. Point to things and help make a resource that is useful for the community.

 

[KingAgamemnon]

The only problem I have with the wiki is that it's in various stages of completeness, and is usually rather general than specific, especially when I want to check out conversations between people for theorizing. Not a knock against the wiki, just my personal feelings on it. It tends to just be easier to open the game and hold ctrl to find the scene or event I'm looking for. A week ago or so, I wanted to find a convo that either Ella or Xanthe had discussing theories of why monsters infect humans to create superhumans, but the wiki wasn't very clear on where to look for it.

 

[EienYagami]

I recently saw a video about WW talking about if Superhuman will be as big as summertime saga and such.

Got me thinking, a step in the right direction would be a trailer for the game and the art revamp.

 

[jjtom000]

I mean, the Himavat Page literally says what you want it to say, which is that nukes aren't likely to do anything to the monster:
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And has always said that
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As for the Goliath page, seems like a semantics issue with the sentence but thats an easy fix.

And if your complaints are about how a writer has interpreted the lore, that is certainly open to discussion. Its a pretty large wiki for relatively few writers to QA and help from the community at large can be useful so we would appreciate it if people would take the time.
This isn't meant to be glib, QA is hard and more hands genuinely make the task easier. Point to things and help make a resource that is useful for the community.

The mistake I mentioned is literally in the powers and abilities segment and the page is not even that long. Did you really missed it or are you just trying to be disingenuous?

 

[Dipasimaan]

The mistake I mentioned is literally in the powers and abilities segment and the page is not even that long. Did you really missed it or are you just trying to be disingenuous?

Just noticed that thanks to your intervention it was corrected. If you happen to find any other issues or misleading interpretations you're more than welcome to tell all of us

 

[devilsdetails]

The mistake I mentioned is literally in the powers and abilities segment and the page is not even that long. Did you really missed it or are you just trying to be disingenuous?

Easy tiger, you were indeed correct and it was missed. Thank you! It is corrected now. Like i said QA is whack a mole. If you find more issues lets us know and we'll fix it.

The only problem I have with the wiki is that it's in various stages of completeness, and is usually rather general than specific, especially when I want to check out conversations between people for theorizing. Not a knock against the wiki, just my personal feelings on it. It tends to just be easier to open the game and hold ctrl to find the scene or event I'm looking for. A week ago or so, I wanted to find a convo that either Ella or Xanthe had discussing theories of why monsters infect humans to create superhumans, but the wiki wasn't very clear on where to look for it.

How the info is sorted across the wiki is indeed a little unclear so the feedback is appreciated. We've been working on making more category pages and having better front page navigation but it takes time to put together. Having forum peeps use it and make suggestions would help us.

 

[JicioJ]

Easy tiger, you were indeed correct and it was missed. Thank you! It is corrected now. Like i said QA is whack a mole. If you find more issues lets us know and we'll fix it.


How the info is sorted across the wiki is indeed a little unclear so the feedback is appreciated. We've been working on making more category pages and having better front page navigation but it takes time to put together. Having forum peeps use it and make suggestions would help us.

I think I already said this a few months ago, but I really like the memes under MC's abilities, they make me chuckle quite a bit

 

[Dipasimaan]

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[RabbidSupreme]

Yes, that's the moment i thought it could be used as proof. Though i still consider it could be something from Mc's dad, maybe hundreds of generations down the line a sea-human was part of his family.
I remember Mc being told he was the only one who carried the legacy of other humans (by the vestige of humanity), but when he asked if there were no others he didn't receive an answer.

That doesn't really add up because both Syla's talk with Indra and the memory we got from the A rank hunt Silat indicate that they're from the sea. Plus if his sea human genes was that diluted I doubt the machine would recognize him

 

[KingAgamemnon]

That doesn't really add up because both Syla's talk with Indra and the memory we got from the A rank hunt Silat indicate that they're from the sea. Plus if his sea human genes was that diluted I doubt the machine would recognize him

Monster DNA and human DNA almost seem like separate things imo. Sure, there's the fact that the MC isn't a perfect split because Syla had to edit herself just enough to conceive, but honestly that could still be explained by saying that she had to edit her monster DNA. So from a monster/spiritual DNA perspective, the MC is 50% Body, 49% Memory, 1% other (which allowed him to be born in the first place), then from a human/physical DNA perspective, the MC is half human, part seahuman, and part Silat. I feel this explanation makes the most sense, considering what we know. Like, we know the MC can change people's DNA, but that doesn't enable him to change the abilities of other superhumans, so a distinction should be drawn between the physical DNA that makes up an organisms phenotypes, and the organism's spiritual/monster DNA which affects their abilities and Apostle percentages.

 

[dragonlord6789]

Am I the only one who finds it strange that Ella a person who has likely experienced an inhumane amount of pain would fall to her knees from it after healing from her wounds? I want to say it's because the pain of nearly being burnt alive without even the time to react to Malik's attacks are throwing her off, but this Ella we are talking about, so I find that hard to believe. I also can't really think of any plausible reason why she would this on purpose either. Anyone have any ideas?

By the way, this is right after she tries to drag those Hero agents into Malik's attack, and Nico teleports them away before Nyx shows up.

 

[SasugaRyzeSama]

Am I the only one who finds it strange that Ella a person who has likely experienced an inhumane amount of pain would fall to her knees from it after healing from her wounds? I want to say it's because the pain of nearly being burnt alive without even the time to react to Malik's attacks are throwing her off, but this Ella we are talking about, so I find that hard to believe. I also can't really think of any plausible reason why she would this on purpose either. Anyone have any ideas?

By the way, this is right after she tries to drag those Hero agents into Malik's attack, and Nico teleports them away before Nyx shows up.
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Maybe weakness overcame her for a second? She was fighting for a bit already, expended quite some power, maybe when she tried to do something really taxing yet again her body/power reserve said no. It happened to MC few times, when he collapsed from exhaustion for a second, but scrambled to his feet afterwards.

Or it's the riot of her Body powers. In second dead end with the Eye it says something that its body shifts and contorts trying to appease the insane powers that are in front of him, namely Bernhardt. Of course Eye is leagues above Ella in power so it didn't really matter, but now she was in front of Malik and maybe tried to shift in some way, and her body just refused to or did it in a way she did not want it to, hence the pain.

 

[Juscaa]

I love this trope in both games and books of an enigmatic shopkeeper with godlike/unknown powers and questionable allegiance. He's here, of course, but also in Eternum and Slay the Spire just for a couple of other examples. I wonder where it started?
Hope we get to learn more about our shopkeeper in future updates. On the other hand, it would be hilarious if he remained a mystery.

 

[shujuku]

I recently saw a video about WW talking about if Superhuman will be as big as summertime saga and such.

Got me thinking, a step in the right direction would be a trailer for the game and the art revamp.

Imo WW branching to mainstream is not the path and he should keep it as the main face of fantasy
visual novels.

 

[Dinoflaggelate]

I love this trope in both games and books of an enigmatic shopkeeper with godlike/unknown powers and questionable allegiance. He's here, of course, but also in Eternum and Slay the Spire just for a couple of other examples. I wonder where it started?
Hope we get to learn more about our shopkeeper in future updates. On the other hand, it would be hilarious if he remained a mystery.

The oldest example I know of is H.G. Wells' The Magic Shop, in 1903, but I wouldn't be surprised if there are older ones.

 

[JicioJ]

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[BenoTF25]

Any theory about who was the individual that killed the Colossi from the Monster World?

The Colossi didn't even try to fight it out of respect, and the being killed him using gigantic claws(like, kilometers level of BIG to ravage the flesh a Monster bigger than a mountain), i can only think on the previous Chosen of Body and the far more unlikely alternative of it having been the Arbiter of Evolution