Mortarion

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So the game tripled in size for so little extra content (im not counting chapter 0 because its weird to release part of chapter 1 then go back and change everything) . Game went from 5 GB to 15 GB just to add chapter 0 and 1 more "mission" with jester and 1 with the girl with pink hair (cant remember her name) ????????? How is that even possible? When i seen the size explode to 15GB i was like "Oh shit we got a good size update" Turns out no we didnt we just got a rework.... Essentially dev decides to spend nearly a year and all we get is 3 additional scenes.... Meanwhile you go to their patreon and all the tiers are so godly expensive to the point that if you are a patreon for a couple months you have already paid for a premium AAA rated game.... TO top it all off in game there are several points where it was like "Oh subscribe to get more strength in game" O.O i think this update was just a way for the dev to shove "Paid content" Down everyone's throat. Lastly, between 0.3p2 and 0.4p1 every scene transition (when you click a new mission on the map) has a pretty decent chance to crash your game , specially the first mission on that map AND when you are in the other world and click "leave floor 10" or w.e .... This WAS a good game and i thought it would end up good, but now ... i guess we will all have to see i this trend of 1 or 2 missions every 10 months will be the norm. If so i dont suggest anyone subscribes because youll be paying 3x the cost of a full AAA rated game or 10 minutes of content a year.
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Periah250

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how the hell do you confirm an outift? im at the very start and i have like 5 outfit types to choose from but i cant confirm them to move on?
 

MorteRivenditore

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how the hell do you confirm an outift? im at the very start and i have like 5 outfit types to choose from but i cant confirm them to move on?
you have to chose the outfit it wants you to then click on the I symbol. pretty much your only choices in this game is what names you chose pretty much thats it (or perspective choices that really dont mean anything)

Essentially click the bottom option for outfits (think its called the classic or something im not sure its the one with the coat) and then click the I then click Yes when it asks if you want to go outside
 

Mortarion

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Okay simplified version, Game is more likely to crash after update, game tripled in size for so little extra content, and now seems to have "pay to have easier time" content.
I would have been happy with full stops, commas and line breaks...
But I get where you come from.

The bigger file size is more likely not the problem, my suspicion lies more in the general hardware requirements. In my opinion are engines like Unity, UR or other crap inferior to renpy - for a AVN.

I haven't played the former versions of the game, so I can't really compare the hardware hunger between 0.3 and 0.4, but it's possible that with the overhaul/rework(?) of the game the hardware requirements have risen. And that could be a problem with players that have *only* a potato pc - no offense.

At least from my point of view, with my setup ( Win10, 12GB RAMI have not this kind of problems you have described.
 

MorteRivenditore

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I would have been happy with full stops, commas and line breaks...
But I get where you come from.

The bigger file size is more likely not the problem, my suspicion lies more in the general hardware requirements. In my opinion are engines like Unity, UR or other crap inferior to renpy - for a AVN.

I haven't played the former versions of the game, so I can't really compare the hardware hunger between 0.3 and 0.4, but it's possible that with the overhaul/rework(?) of the game the hardware requirements have risen. And that could be a problem with players that have *only* a potato pc - no offense.

At least from my point of view, with my setup ( Win10, 12GB RAMI have not this kind of problems you have described.
Im on windows 10, 32 GB of ram, a 12 core processor, So not so much a potato settup and mine would crash and freeze. Maybe i was just unlucky? Its hard to say but from what iv seen on a few platforms, im not the only one so its hard to say. When i mentioned the file size, I was mostly stating the fact that the game some how triples in size, but yet we get maybe a tenth of extra content (to what is currently in the game). I also dont believe the file size contributes to it being unstable.

Edit: Just to iterate a bit more. Only thing in my settup that could be classed as "old" or "potato", would be my GPU but if it was a hardware issue (Running out of ram, CPU overload, or GPU overload), then it would also be reflected in my hardware monitor that is up at all times on my second monitor. But yea my post is mostly to inform anyone who thought as I did, that if they are expecting a bunch of extra content because the game exploded in size, that they should not expect that as again, all thats really new is the new "intro" , as well as a new mission with Jess (Jester) , and the pink haired girl and thats basically it. If we were to cut out chapter 0 , there is maybe 20-30 minutes of extra content id say.
 
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1tomadeira

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I'm a bit confused, the angel asks which world I want to go, the first or the 2nd, yet the game doesn't let me select the 2nd world, saying "family I'm taking this from you". Am I missing something? I searched around the thread but didn't find. Thanks in advance.
 

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I'm a bit confused, the angel asks which world I want to go, the first or the 2nd, yet the game doesn't let me select the 2nd world, saying "family I'm taking this from you". Am I missing something? I searched around the thread but didn't find. Thanks in advance.
from what i understood you unlock the 2nd world (with the relations we all know and love) later in the game when you beat red mask
 

MorteRivenditore

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I'm a bit confused, the angel asks which world I want to go, the first or the 2nd, yet the game doesn't let me select the 2nd world, saying "family I'm taking this from you". Am I missing something? I searched around the thread but didn't find. Thanks in advance.
from what i understood you unlock the 2nd world (with the relations we all know and love) later in the game when you beat red mask
So apparently it will be in the next update whenever that is, as when you go to click on red mask it says "available in v4 part 2".

As well attached screenshot is a quote by the dev himself as well as the comment he is responding to. From what I can understand maybe you will be able to create a non chaos game after v4 part 2? Though that is speculation.
 

Sossse

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As well attached screenshot is a quote by the dev himself as well as the comment he is responding to. From what I can understand maybe you will be able to create a non chaos game after v4 part 2? Though that is speculation.
i guess this is the dev´s try get around anti **cest stuff like patrion. he writes that a chaos factor (in this case red mask) rewrites reality and makes it into something else (aka the not-family route)
but this is NOT how the story is supposed to go, so whe, the player/protector, will be able to defeat the chaos factors and return the story to what it was supposed to be...
in the end the dev it trying to maintain his original idea while making some money out of it, and i have seen worse attempts at this. this dev at least tries to make the changes to be a coherent part of the story, this should be worth at least something..
 

MorteRivenditore

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i guess this is the dev´s try get around anti **cest stuff like patrion. he writes that a chaos factor (in this case red mask) rewrites reality and makes it into something else (aka the not-family route)
but this is NOT how the story is supposed to go, so whe, the player/protector, will be able to defeat the chaos factors and return the story to what it was supposed to be...
in the end the dev it trying to maintain his original idea while making some money out of it, and i have seen worse attempts at this. this dev at least tries to make the changes to be a coherent part of the story, this should be worth at least something..
yea tho sadly from my point of view as the player we can expect less content per update if he continues the chaos and normal paths separately, as time will be spent writing for both.

If the timeframe of how long this update took we can expect 3-4 new missions every 10-12 months, which im just gunna say, for games like this is on the slow side...
 

MorteRivenditore

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I would have been happy with full stops, commas and line breaks...
But I get where you come from.

The bigger file size is more likely not the problem, my suspicion lies more in the general hardware requirements. In my opinion are engines like Unity, UR or other crap inferior to renpy - for a AVN.

I haven't played the former versions of the game, so I can't really compare the hardware hunger between 0.3 and 0.4, but it's possible that with the overhaul/rework(?) of the game the hardware requirements have risen. And that could be a problem with players that have *only* a potato pc - no offense.

At least from my point of view, with my setup ( Win10, 12GB RAMI have not this kind of problems you have described.
So after thinking about this for a few days I might have come up with a possible reason for why this update causes more crashes.
When looking at saves all old saves disappeared, BUT it seems they were moved into "auto saves", so maybe for those that have previously played, this is what is causing the crashes? That is just speculation though, as idk how that could cause crashes during "loading" phases (points where the game has to load the scenes).

I can say though that I experienced the crashes even on a fresh install (even tried to re download the rar file and extract again).
 
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