VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Klopdwerg]

Hooray, my birthday! Hey... wait a minute. My birthday isn't for another 2 years. YOU BASTARD!

Congratz anyway Ilhares. Make sure you enjoy every bit of it

 

[znar25]

Neil when he sees MC arrive at the door with Bella:
Jill would be interesting too because we can see her reaction to how poor people live. She might regret her blasé comments about her rich lifestyle. Anyway, you are sure to get some fantastic sympathy sex out of it. it would be great if DPC wrote in a situation where the LI must spend the night at MC's home after dinner and she has to sleep in his bedroom.

Bella and MC in the tree house?

 

[yrandom95]

Anti-war sentiments are strong in Russia. Ordinary Russians themselves are shocked by Putin and the fact that he wants to unleash a nuclear war. I went to an anti-war meeting, the police arrested many, but I was lucky .
Slowing down the Russian Army and sanctions have greatly undermined the spirit of the elite that many oligarchs oppose the war. But I hope that Putin will be overthrown by his inner circle.
No war!
Sage is life!
Sage is love!
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If i could i would have given this guy two likes.
Both for his anti-war sentiment and his very good taste.

 

[Pendrell]

Not just the walkthrough (that was just an easily accessible visual example), all DPCs communications, from the pre-release thread to now, even in his polls etc. He's made a hard distinction between main girls and side girls throughout development.

E8 wasn't the first time there were material differences in game between main & side girls. The MGs are still the only girls who have RP points for instance. Quinn & all the other SGs miss out, presumably because there's no planned 'relationship' with them. Perhaps more importantly, the MC is heavily involved with the MGs personal lives, regardless of whether he's pursuing them romantically or not. While it's possible for the MC to have next to nothing to do with Quinn & the other SGs should you choose. The difference has seemed pretty stark to me throughout the game.

Whilst you're correct in defining the technical distinction between MGs and SGs (the former being involved with MC in the main story regardless of romantic choices, the latter not), I don't agree with your conclusions about what this means for relationships and endings with the various girls, particularly for Quinn.

It seems to me that apart from in the guide and polls, far from maintaining a "hard distinction", DPC has deliberately and repeatedly blurred the line between the two categories when it comes to the game/story content itself. Quinn, for example, has had her own prologue, her own hangout, her own path, and her own animation at the end of episode 8. These are all features she has in common with MGs, not SGs, and yet a strict interpretation of the official guide would have us believe she is categorically more similar to Cathy, someone we've barely seen for two episodes. In fact, as a result of all this, it's not uncommon for new players to say they assumed Quinn was a Main Girl, based on their experience of the game. This happens so frequently that at a certain point I think you have to accept those players are responding to something real in the game, in terms of the way Quinn's character has been purposefully developed.

It's reasonable to ask why DPC has done things in this way. For me, it's because he's interested in developing her as a romantic option with a distinct path. As I've argued before, the biggest hint about DPC's intentions in this regard is the animation at the end of episode 8. He didn't have to do that, he could've just as easily merged Quinn's route completely into the Others path, but for some reason he chose to single Quinn out, emphasising her as a love interest, not an antagonist. That animation looks back to a moment in episode 8, but I think it is also a statement of intent for how she's likely to be used as a character in future episodes, if on her route.

Just a quick word on your reference to RP: I think I'm right in saying that DPC has spoken about moving away from this as being a big determiner of relationships. There are a few examples of where it matters, in very minor ways, in the first 8 episodes, but mostly it doesn't. So I don't think we can be confident that lack of RP means no ending or relationship with a SG.

The MG/SG distinction is a real thing, as you noted, and it has an impact in the game. Bella will always cut the MC's hair and Jill will always try to protect MC by dating Tybalt, regardless of whether the MC is dating either girl. Quinn doesn't work in the same way; so far she's largely an antagonist in the main story and only involved with the MC if he's on her path. But in my view, this is a comment about the way the main story is structured, it doesn't have anything to say about the viability of the romantic options. Quinn is not an MG (so far), but she is definitely a LI. I think DPC has made this pretty clear. I don't think she's therefore limited in where her route can go just because she doesn't have the MG label.

 

[znar25]

Any ideas on the part where Cathy is showing up at a new office? How do we think that will play out in the plot? Any ideas? Why show it if it isn't important to the future?

 

[Illmatic94]

guys quick question: do you think downloading the game is a bit of a security risk? If you have like some passwords of important clients lol

 

[Casiope]

guys quick question: do you think downloading the game is a bit of a security risk? If you have like some passwords of important clients lol

Although no viruses were found in this game, I cannot guarantee that all versions offered via download links or torrent are 100% safe. Furthermore, I strongly advise against installing a pornographic game on professional device, for obvious reasons.

 

[Casiope]

Any ideas on the part where Cathy is showing up at a new office? How do we think that will play out in the plot? Any ideas? Why show it if it isn't important to the future?

Cathy does not seem to be a popular character of Being a DIK, unlike Jade; the fact that she gets so few scenes is not to her advantage.

Perhaps the conclusion was intended to convince that she had definitely left Burgmeister & Royce. I see no evidence suggesting a connection between her new job and the current plots, unless we speculate some family tie from the employer (Rusty?). There was a missed opportunity to make her more engaging after the nude pic scandal, instead of a pathetic scene of the former teacher drowning her sorrows. Also, I found Cathy's physique ungraceful, with an almost masculine face, so I will not miss her, nor I wish her return.

 

[RukiRG]

What have you done?
You mentioned it.

Mention f95 on DPC discord, not here

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ugh, the interlude is a waste of time. Should of just kept working on season 3.

Interlude is a part of the story and a part of season 3

guys quick question: do you think downloading the game is a bit of a security risk? If you have like some passwords of important clients lol

Nothing have been found on BitDefender and Windows defender scans

 

[AchedCroissant]

Hooray, my birthday! Hey... wait a minute. My birthday isn't for another 2 years. YOU BASTARD!

Happy birthday BTW I had an uncle who had his birthday that day but it was celebrated on February 28 I don't know if it's the same with you

 

[AchedCroissant]

Good to know you can't trust anyone on DPC's discord server.

I think we never knew who the rat was and it's probably still here

 

[ename144]

Not just the walkthrough (that was just an easily accessible visual example), all DPCs communications, from the pre-release thread to now, even in his polls etc. He's made a hard distinction between main girls and side girls throughout development.

E8 wasn't the first time there were material differences in game between main & side girls. The MGs are still the only girls who have RP points for instance. Quinn & all the other SGs miss out, presumably because there's no planned 'relationship' with them. Perhaps more importantly, the MC is heavily involved with the MGs personal lives, regardless of whether he's pursuing them romantically or not. While it's possible for the MC to have next to nothing to do with Quinn & the other SGs should you choose. The difference has seemed pretty stark to me throughout the game.

Anything is possible, the question is what's likely. This scenario seems like pure conjecture to me.


I strongly disagree, I didn't find it sexually suggestive at all? The only titillating element was they were half naked. The bulk of the conversation was Bella getting pissed at Jill dredging up things she doesn't want to talk about, and Jill getting annoyed at Bella being rude & dismissive. Not one thing in that conversation suggested there had been any sexual intimacy between them to me?


Where as I would be pleasantly surprised if Quinn did get a full-blown main girl ending. I've enjoyed her gradually letting her guard down if the MC plays his cards right. Quinn is a great character, I just don't think she'll get an ending on par with the main girls.

I expect the finale to be an extension of the E8 endings. Lots of detail if you've chosen an MG to build a relationship with, less so if you went with others. Others will still have an endgame no doubt, it just won't revolve around an individual romantic relationship, more a recap of your many & varied flings, with Quinn featuring more prominently if you managed to bond with her.

DPC claims to have all the main plot points mapped out, I think it extremely unlikely anyone else will be joining the main girl roster at this point.

Of course my expectations could be completely wrong, but to me at least this seems a more plausible scenario based on what DPC has said & done with these characters so far.

It's conjecture, but I think it's reasonable conjecture given the evidence we've seen. Sure, the main 5 had RPs, but I don't consider that much different than the walkthrough distinction: you'd be hard pressed to know RPs exist without consulting the walkthrough (or delving into the code directly). If anything, you'd think Quinn must be more dependent on RPs than the others since her path can diverge much more than theirs.

To me, everything about the game suggests the choice at the crossroads will not be the final word on the matter. I say that because: the game emphasizes the player's interest in Maya or Josy separately despite not letting you pick them; Bella's marriage remains completely unexplained; Sage says to let her know if the MC's choice doesn't pan out; the Others branch specifically mentions the MC isn't ready for a relationship yet; the variation of the Others montage for those on Quinn's path goldenrule91 and shazba discussed; and the splashy return of Zoey.

All of that suggests the MC will at the very least need to reaffirm his decision before the end. If so, then it must be possible for the decision not to be affirmed. In that case, isn't it logical that girls who weren't LIs the first time could conceivably be LIs the second time? As we get closer to the end, the difficulty in accommodating them decreases. I'd be willing to bet Maya and Josy will eventually get solo paths. So why not Quinn or Zoey, too?

I strongly disagree, I didn't find it sexually suggestive at all? The only titillating element was they were half naked. The bulk of the conversation was Bella getting pissed at Jill dredging up things she doesn't want to talk about, and Jill getting annoyed at Bella being rude & dismissive. Not one thing in that conversation suggested there had been any sexual intimacy between them to me?

It's not just that they're half naked, it's that the discussion started because they were looking at each other in bed. Moreover, Bella knocked her wedding photo off the stand once Jill left, clearly linking something about the topic to her failed marriage. As I said, to me the implication is obvious. But as established, DPC likes to mislead us. So I say it's too obvious.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Any ideas on the part where Cathy is showing up at a new office? How do we think that will play out in the plot? Any ideas? Why show it if it isn't important to the future?

In my opinion that scene was just meant to be a reassurance that Cathy is not out of the picture, that we will see her again soon (5-6 months...).

It's conjecture, but I think it's reasonable conjecture given the evidence we've seen. Sure, the main 5 had RPs, but I don't consider that much different than the walkthrough distinction: you'd be hard pressed to know RPs exist without consulting the walkthrough (or delving into the code directly). If anything, you'd think Quinn must be more dependent on RPs than the others since her path can diverge much more than theirs.

To me, everything about the game suggests the choice at the crossroads will not be the final word on the matter. I say that because: the game emphasizes the player's interest in Maya or Josy separately despite not letting you pick them; Bella's marriage remains completely unexplained; Sage says to let her know if the MC's choice doesn't pan out; the Others branch specifically mentions the MC isn't ready for a relationship yet; the variation of the Others montage for those on Quinn's path goldenrule91 and shazba discussed; and the splashy return of Zoey.

All of that suggests the MC will at the very least need to reaffirm his decision before the end. If so, then it must be possible for the decision not to be affirmed. In that case, isn't it logical that girls who weren't LIs the first time could conceivably be LIs the second time? As we get closer to the end, the difficulty in accommodating them decreases. I'd be willing to bet Maya and Josy will eventually get solo paths. So why not Quinn or Zoey, too?

it seems to me quite evident that the "non-LIs" will be a sort of safety net, if MC will let any LIs slip away he will find consolation in a non-LI.

some LIs in the great decision even automatically excluded the possibility of being able to choose "other", and this is a clear sign of subordination from the point of view of the story.

 

[RukiRG]

I think we never knew who the rat was and it's probably still here

I wouldn't be surprised to be DPC himself

 

[Kellermann]

Bella and MC in the tree house?

MC walks in tree house...hey look my old cum stains from Zoey are still here!
Bella:

Well not to crush your hopes, but adopted family members are still banned under the Patreon terms. They assess it based on the 'family dynamic'. If they addressed each other as family members (mom, sis etc.) then no bonking allowed. Obviously roleplay is different, non-family can call Jade whatever and vice versa.

I wonder how Sage is going to address jade. something tells me she is one of those people who won't call her mother but use given name instead, much to Jade's annoyance.

I strongly disagree, I didn't find it sexually suggestive at all? The only titillating element was they were half naked. The bulk of the conversation was Bella getting pissed at Jill dredging up things she doesn't want to talk about, and Jill getting annoyed at Bella being rude & dismissive. Not one thing in that conversation suggested there had been any sexual intimacy between them to me?

it's definitely ambiguous. One thing that I keep coming back to however is Jill says to Bella the, "it's not going to happen again" line while the two are in bed together after uncomfortable pause. Why does this line only come up when they are face-to-face in bed together, awkwardly staring into each others eyes? It sure seems like whatever "it" is, last happened when they were in bed together or at least in a similar intimate setting. it's all a bit odd I must say. No real proof, but I just can't rule it out especially given Jill's tendency to sleep hump-orgasm, which is a silly (but still fun) piece of story. In a world where that can happen, anything can. To be clear, I'm not convinced that anything sexual happened or will happen between them, but I can't rule it out entirely.

 

[felicemastronzo]

it's definitely ambiguous. One thing that I keep coming back to however is Jill says to Bella the, "it's not going to happen again" line while the two are in bed together after uncomfortable pause. Why does this line only come up when they are face-to-face in bed together, awkwardly staring into each others eyes? It sure seems like whatever "it" is, last happened when they were in bed together or at least in a similar intimate setting. it's all a bit odd I must say. No real proof, but I just can't rule it out especially given Jill's tendency to sleep hump-orgasm, which is a silly (but still fun) piece of story. In a world where that can happen, anything can. To be clear, I'm not convinced that anything sexual happened or will happen between them, but I can't rule it out entirely.

ok it's a porn game...

but how do you think there could be action between the two girls with Mc on the other side of the door....

for me they clearly refer to having brought up again a topic that Bella asked not to talk about

 

[mightybored]

I think Bella has experienced Jill's sleep-humping, which is why she warns Jill before they fall asleep in the same bed again.

 

[Kellermann]

I think we never knew who the rat was and it's probably still here

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I think Bella has experienced Jill's sleep-humping, which is why she warns Jill before they fall asleep in the same bed again.

Do you think she sleep humped Bianca too? I wonder how many people have fallen "victim" to the infamous B&R sleep humper?

 

[vogelbeest]

Do you think she sleep humped Bianca too? I wonder how many people have fallen "victim" to the infamous B&R sleep humper?

Atleast it explains why Tybalts room never was locked when MC visited.... And makes you wonder if Sage really was hiding for her father or just waiting for Jill to start sleepwalking!

 

[Kellermann]

Atleast it explains why Tybalts room never was locked when MC visited.... And makes you wonder if Sage really was hiding for her father or just waiting for Jill to start sleepwalking!

NGL...I'd spy on that action.

ok it's a porn game...

but how do you think there could be action between the two girls with Mc on the other side of the door....

for me they clearly refer to having brought up again a topic that Bella asked not to talk about

Yes, but why does DPC choose to reveal it to the audience only then? We mostly see Jill/Bella discuss mundane things. Only when they get in this intimate setting does DPC make it a point for players to see. All I know is this "it" thing that Jill did had better be very important and not some foolish little item that is meant as a red herring.

The only other reason that appears in my mind is Jill stealing away a man from Bella or perhaps just liking the same man. The "it" memory seems like it is partly triggered by MC's presence. Does anyone know if this Bella bedroom scene changes dramatically if either Bella or Jill are not romantically interested in MC?