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The result was no consensus.  JGHowes  talk 17:20, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

List of British Regular Army regiments (1962)

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The opening LEAD says "This is a list of British Regular Army regiments after the Army restructuring caused by the 1957 Defence White Paper: many regiments were amalgamated between 1958-60. Further cuts and amalgamations took place in the 1960s and early 1970s." Yet The title is List of British Regular Army regiments (1962). How do we know these are the units in the British Army as of 1962 as a result of the 1957 White Paper which is five years after and the units changed across the 1960s and 1970s? Clearly there are no references and the article does not meet WP:GNG or WP:ARTN. BlueD954 (talk) 03:45, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. BlueD954 (talk) 03:54, 12 November 2020 (UTC) [reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 05:47, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 20:52, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Typo.BlueD954 (talk) 05:05, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: I poked around some of the wikilinks just for fun - which is what a good list will lend itself to. I found no inaccuracies on what is listed here by looking through the individual units I sampled. And while the comments on future amalgamations after 1962 may be a little confusing given the name of the list, the data on what happened to the unit after the 1962 date is excellent and useful. This to me is a good and informative list.--Concertmusic (talk) 22:01, 30 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Comment: That is not the reason. The reason is there is no references to show these units were formed or retained as as result of the 1957 White Paper. Being informative is not the reason at all. Where are your sources to show they were merged as of the 1957 paper? BlueD954 (talk) 05:05, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    The 1962 Defence White Paper is part of Command Paper 1639. It appears that neither is readily available without some subscription access. If anyone has ProQuest access, I have found some references that these command papers may be available there, and I would love for someone to give it a look. Thank you.--Concertmusic (talk) 13:37, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    @Concertmusic: I have ProQuest access. Post requests on my talk page and I'll see if I can access the documents you are looking for. No promises though. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:32, 2 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    @Hawkeye7: Let's give it a shot. Firstly, I base my statement about where this defence white paper may be found on this link - first sentence. Then, when I search for that numbered command paper, it gets a little muddled, because the number 1639 doesn't seem to fit into the link here about command papers. It may be a wild goose chase - but thank you for taking a quick look!--Concertmusic (talk) 21:06, 2 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm sure it exists, but could only find a summary. I did find "Amalgamations and Disbandments in the British Army". Journal of the Royal United Service Institution. 114. London: 82–84. 1 December 1969. The actual plan is found in TNA CAB 129/87/M(57)144 "The Future Organisation of the Army", 18 June 1957, which you can read here Hawkeye7 (discuss) 23:00, 2 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you. I look forward to some R&R - reading and research!--Concertmusic (talk) 00:10, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment and Keep if this is focused on the list of regiments after the 1957 White Paper, it should say that. If it is about that period, maybe 1957-59, it should be retitled and based upon a specific list, which should be available in various British Army history books or Hansard. Buckshot06 (talk) 03:33, 2 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per WP:CLN. In agreement with Concertmusic and Buckshot06. Sources are available, list is useful. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:32, 2 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 22:15, 4 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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