Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

4.10 star(s) 389 Votes
Discussion Reviews (389)
GeppettoPossum

GeppettoPossum

Active Member
Game Developer
Oct 29, 2019
645
2,105
Tompp said:
This has already been confirmed though? The only other option is that Hunter seduced households into becoming literal brothels while looking like a scabinfested carcass. Which is more laughable than anything else. Given that Drew went to these brothels to "make sure they were running properly" yeah no there is no redemption.
Click to expand...
I don't think it has been confirmed. If that does turn out to be the case, then I hope at least Drew was ignorant of it happening.

If Hunter was drugging families and Drew went along with it, I would tend to agree with you about there not being any redemption. At least, it would be REALLY hard to redeem Drew in my eyes.

It would be quite lazy writing for the family to forgive Drew if she had been going along with drugging people against their will for 15+ years.

That being said, WWG has proven himself to be a great writer, so I really doubt that's going to happen. I'm sure there will be some nuance to it.
 
T

Tompp

New Member
Apr 25, 2018
13
8
solongdentalplan said:
I don't think it has been confirmed. If that does turn out to be the case, then I hope at least Drew was ignorant of it happening.

If Hunter was drugging families and Drew went along with it, I would tend to agree with you about there not being any redemption. At least, it would be REALLY hard to redeem Drew in my eyes.
Click to expand...
Here is a direct quote from Drew after Lucia tells her about Hunter using the tranq dart:
"Drugging and deception is one thing... But I can't believe he would resort to darting MC like an animal! Those tranquilizer darts are really dangerous... even the police don't use them..."

Right before this she says Hunter takes "certain liberties".

Once more, no redemption possible here!
 
  • Like
Reactions: The_Reviewer and ARB582
GeppettoPossum

GeppettoPossum

Active Member
Game Developer
Oct 29, 2019
645
2,105
Tompp said:
Here is a direct quote from Drew after Lucia tells her about Hunter using the tranq dart:
"Drugging and deception is one thing... But I can't believe he would resort to darting MC like an animal! Those tranquilizer darts are really dangerous... even the police don't use them..."

Right before this she says Hunter takes "certain liberties".

Once more, no redemption possible here!
Click to expand...
Right, well she found out about Hunter's drugging AFTER she arrived. I remember her getting upset at him about it.
I don't really have a timeline for how long Drew has been there (a couple weeks maybe?), but we do know that Ophelia's lactation stopped after Drew arrived, right? Perhaps Hunter cut back/stopped on some of the drugs after Drew got there? Or perhaps Drew sabotaged some of them?

Either way, you do bring up a valid point. Drew knew about the drugging and did nothing (that we know of) until she found out about the tranqs. Was she biding her time or was she okay with it? Did she feel powerless to stop Hunter? Is his indoctrination that deep? I'm sure Hunter has dirt on Drew. Perhaps that's why she didn't act?

I'm not sure where WWG will go with Drew's story in the next chapter. However, the fact that there will still be (at least one) NTR ending involving Drew as the "antagonist" has me a little worried. A leopard never changes its spots, perhaps?
 
T

Tompp

New Member
Apr 25, 2018
13
8
solongdentalplan said:
I'm not sure where WWG will go with Drew's story in the next chapter. However, the fact that there will still be (at least one) NTR ending involving Drew as the "antagonist" has me a little worried. A leopard never changes its spots, perhaps?
Click to expand...
Who knows, also the "certain liberties" is her talking about Hunter taking over other households saying that it's usually in their "best interests". Basically Drew either has a literal potato brain or she knew.

Just sucks that the only trans character is feckin Himmler to Hunters hitler...
 
GeppettoPossum

GeppettoPossum

Active Member
Game Developer
Oct 29, 2019
645
2,105
Tompp said:
Who knows, also the "certain liberties" is her talking about Hunter taking over other households saying that it's usually in their "best interests". Basically Drew either has a literal potato brain or she knew.

Just sucks that the only trans character is feckin Himmler to Hunters hitler...
Click to expand...
Don't forget that Hunter started "training" Drew on the Dio Del Sesso path when she was only 13 or 14 years old (and pre-transition). She set out to conquer households with Hunter at around age 20. This is pretty much all she's ever known.

I'm hoping that WWG's next game includes a trans character that is NOT an antagonist, but I'm not sure how much of an appetite there is for that among his fanbase. It seems that for most of the people in this thread, any penis other than the MC's is exclusively for NTR purposes.
 
S

SuddenReal

Well-Known Member
Jun 21, 2017
1,580
2,422
solongdentalplan said:
Right, well she found out about Hunter's drugging AFTER she arrived. I remember her getting upset at him about it.
Click to expand...
Correction: she became upset that Hunter used drugs on their family, not that Hunter used drugs. IIRC she said that Sterling wasn't a high enough threat to use drugs, which implies they've used drugs before.
 
N

NachoAndCheez

Member
Nov 1, 2020
346
278
SuddenReal said:
Correction: she became upset that Hunter used drugs on their family, not that Hunter used drugs. IIRC she said that Sterling wasn't a high enough threat to use drugs, which implies they've used drugs before.
Click to expand...
I have already said that, when MC confronted Drew about the drugs, the outrage that came was because Drew thought the MC was a null threat "you are a man chained by reason and morality." those words, wich made it awful to use drugs in that case, so if MC was a big enough threat there WOULD BE ZERO qualms about using drugs.
 
T

Tompp

New Member
Apr 25, 2018
13
8
solongdentalplan said:
Don't forget that Hunter started "training" Drew on the Dio Del Sesso path when she was only 13 or 14 years old (and pre-transition). She set out to conquer households with Hunter at around age 20. This is pretty much all she's ever known.
Click to expand...
This is a fair point which some people are probably going to take as important but I really do not care tbh. Personally(!) even the entire Dio Del Sesso just grosses me out on all the involved characters.

She is an adult and even at 13 or 14 you are hardly going to be "rewired" to the same extent as someone who has been indoctrinated from a younger age.
She might have 50iq, if so fine, but that still makes the character completely unpalatable for me.
 
pinkie96

pinkie96

Member
May 12, 2017
460
2,285
NachoAndCheez said:
You know, kinda douchey for me to pipe up since I'm not a patreon, but all those 3 pairings have great potential for the story and it's a downer that only one can be picked.
Click to expand...
That's not douchey for anyone to say, that's just facts. I wouldn't be surprised if each of these suggestions win in separate polls.
 
Fayn Arawn

Fayn Arawn

Well-Known Member
May 24, 2019
1,175
2,485
NachoAndCheez said:
You know, kinda douchey for me to pipe up since I'm not a patreon, but all those 3 pairings have great potential for the story and it's a downer that only one can be picked.
Click to expand...
Even if they don't win this time, they could still have a chance to win future polls. I'm not crazy about Amber x Caspian, they had a Dream Scene and that was enough for me, but I know some people really want to see it. Catherine x Penny has potential to be hilarious, so I wouldn't mind that.

I'm torn when it comes to the current frontrunners (Kumiko x Flora). I like them both and I think they are alike in some ways (being "New Age" moms). Flora in particular needs more scenes, but I was kind of hoping she'd be a target for Hunter or Drew. If there isn't a last minute change, she'll be in the winning pair and locked out of future polls.
 
  • Like
Reactions: x0run
N

NachoAndCheez

Member
Nov 1, 2020
346
278
Fayn Arawn said:
Even if they don't win this time, they could still have a chance to win future polls. I'm not crazy about Amber x Caspian, they had a Dream Scene and that was enough for me, but I know some people really want to see it. Catherine x Penny has potential to be hilarious, so I wouldn't mind that.

I'm torn when it comes to the current frontrunners (Kumiko x Flora). I like them both and I think they are alike in some ways (being "New Age" moms). Flora in particular needs more scenes, but I was kind of hoping she'd be a target for Hunter or Drew. If there isn't a last minute change, she'll be in the winning pair and locked out of future polls.
Click to expand...
I mean, it has the whole 'final chance' thing no?

I thought these were the last polls before the ending.
 
S

SuddenReal

Well-Known Member
Jun 21, 2017
1,580
2,422
NachoAndCheez said:
I mean, it has the whole 'final chance' thing no?

I thought these were the last polls before the ending.
Click to expand...
Yes, but the game doesn't come out yet. A new poll will run every month until the final update. The only ones excluded from entering a new poll are characters who already won.
 
dartred

dartred

Forum Fanatic
Game Developer
Aug 30, 2017
4,583
8,812
That Amber and her dad suggestion has been mine for 2 months or so now. every month it does better. i'm hoping next month it wins.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top Bottom
4.10 star(s) 389 Votes